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Parental Alienation is Child Abuse

Folie à deux & false allegations of sexual abuse

July30

This is an analysis of how psychiatric problems in a family can lead to the malicious prosecution of innocent people. In the more serious, otherwise similar situation, there can be false allegations of sexual abuse, therefore this is a combined report.

Also known as a “madness shared by two” Folie à deux is a delusional disorder shared by two people; who have close emotional ties. Commonly the stronger, more dominant person develops a delusion and induces it in the other. The condition generally remits if the dominant person is treated or if the two are separated.

  • Folie imposée- is where a dominant person (known as the ‘primary’, ‘inducer’ or ‘principal’) initially forms a delusional belief during a psychotic episode and imposes it on another person or persons (known as the ’secondary’, ‘acceptor’ or ‘associate’) with the assumption that the secondary person might not have become deluded if left to his or her own devices.
  • Folie simultanée- describes either the situation where two people considered to suffer independently from psychosis influence the content of each other’s delusions so they become identical or strikingly similar, or one in which two people “morbidly predisposed” to delusional psychosis mutually trigger symptoms in each other
  • Folie communiquée- The recipient develops psychosis after a long period of resistance and maintains the symptoms even after separation. The mental status exam may be consistent with hypervigilance, obsessive thinking, brooding, rumination, anxiety, and lack of reasoning.
  • Folie induite- New delusions are adopted by an individual with psychosis who is under the influence of another individual with psychosis. The mental status exam would be similar to one of a psychotic patient, namely, paranoia; lack of reasoning, judgment, and insight; and poor relatedness. Limited eye contact, bizarre mannerisms, and magical thinking may be apparent on assessment.

Paranoid disorders and the spread of delusional ideas to family members have been in literature since the 17th century. Few people in close association with deluded individuals acquire their delusions as attested by the rarity of published cases of only 100 reports of folie a deux from 1877 to 1942 and 280 cases from 1943 to 1996. Many cases may go unnoticed because they are classified individually or because only one member of a pair is admitted. The more a hospital is oriented toward family evaluations and diagnoses, the more likely a partner in a shared psychotic disorder will be found.

Folie a deux has been implicated in such notorious or bizarre events as the serial killers Ian Brady and Myra Hindley,Fred and Rose West;mass suicides of the People’s Temple cult in Guyana (912 people in 1978),Heaven’s Gate cult recently; The League of Geniuses,the Men in Black “seen” by flying saucer watchers/alien abductees and even Adolf Hitler and the German nation. Suicide Pact in Dublin of the Mulrooney (Mullrooney in a register) family.

 

DSM-IV-TR Diagnostic Criteria for 297.3 Shared Psychotic Disorder

ICD-10 Diagnostic Criteria for F.24 Induced Delusional Disorder (Folie à Deux)

  1. A delusion develops in an individual in the context of a close relationship with another person or persons, who have an already established delusion.
  2. The delusion is similar in content to that of the person who already has an established delusion.
  3. The disturbance is not better accounted for by another psychotic disorder (eg, schizophrenia) or a mood disorder with psychotic features and is not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (eg, drug abuse, medication) or a general medical condition.
  1. Two people share the same delusion or delusional system and support one another in this belief.
  2. They have an unusually close relationship.
  3. Temporal or contextual evidence exists that indicates the delusion was induced in the passive member by contact with the active partner.

 

There are marked similarities between what transpires in the developement of a folie a deux and the process of brainwashing. Three phases are present in both. The first phase may be viewed as the “disorganizing or regressive phase” and consists of the breakdown of existing defenses and resistances. In brainwashing and folie a deux, this is accomplished through social isolation, sensory and ideational deprivation. During the second phase identification with the agressor, who is viewed as the rescuer, takes place. The submissive individual identifies with the dominant person who is carrying out the operation. The brainwashee is exposed to kindness and consideration during this phase. The third phase is the reindoctrination period. Constant monoideational stimulation is maintained until the individual who is in a submissive role incorporates the ideas. The second and third phases are only possible after the first has been successful.

FALSE ACCUSATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH PSYCHIATRIC DISTURBANCE

Not all false allegations are deliberately made. Allegations of sexual abuse may occur as part of a psychiatric illness. These individuals generally show other features of illness and will respond to treatment of the underlying condition. However, some may come to the attention of investigating authorities before the correct diagnosis is made. The division of mental illness into psychosis and neurosis, though imprecise, remains a useful distinction. As well as mental illness are the various forms of personality disorder which may exist independently of any mental illness but can cause significant impairment of social functioning. Psychosis is a mental disorder in which there is gross impairment of mental function to such an extent that insight, judgment and contact with reality are affected. The majority of sufferers experience delusions or halucinations, have conspicuous social and personality difficulties and generally do not recognize themselves as unwell.

 


Some custody disputes may be of this kind, in which a child takes on the delusion of the parent. Allegations involving children that were later found to be false often involve mothers with a psychotic illness. An allegation of sexual abuse is a potent weapon against a despised spouse and in cases where custody is disputed such allegations have a high probability of being false. That is not to imply that there are no true cases of sexual abuse in custody cases, merely that the context offers peculiar temptations to the adults. Divorce and disputes over custody form the background to about 50 percent of cases of false allegations of sexual abuse involving children. Typically, this kind of allegation is a deliberate manipulation by one parent to obtain custody, using the child as an instrument of directed deceipt.

Most often, the mother accuses the father of abusing the child and sometimes coaxes the child to confirm the allegation, but remember this can happen with a father against the mother. The studies in which the allegations against the mother have not yet been established in a more thorough setting, therefore this report relflects more recent studies of allegations against the father. In a study of two individual mothers the allegations were grandious and unfounded, and reflected the same results as those of a fathers.

Some children come to believe their stories, while others are simply suporting the parent. Not all accusations are as flagrantly dishonest and some arise from anxious misinterpretation of a child’s behaviour. Children who are torn between two parents frequently show signs of distress, which can be misconstrued as fear of the non-custodial parent.

PARENTAL ALIENATION SYNDROME

Parental alienation syndrome (PAS, Gardner, 1985, 1986, 1987a, 1987b, 1989, 1992, 1998) is a disorder that arises almost exclusively in the context of child-custody disputes. In this disorder, one parent (the alienator), induces a program of denigration against the other parent (the alienated parent) or (targeted parent) However, this is not simply a matter of “brainwashing” or “programming” in that the children contribute their own elements into the campaign of denigration. It is this combination of factors that justifiably warrants the designation PAS.

When paranoia fuels PAS, the victim of the paranoid delusional system is often limited to the denigrated spouse, at least, this is the case in the early phases. With ongoing litigation, the paranoia may expand to all the people who provide support to the targeted parent. Typically, the paranoid system becomes illogical and preposterous; for example, that the targeted parent would perpetrate abusive behavior–and even sexual molestation, in front of court-ordered supervisors.

Often the PAS parent and the programmed child jointly entertain the same delusion. This is when it is referred to a folie à deux. This is a common occurrence in PAS. In such cases, the DSM-IV diagnosis of shared psychotic delusion (folie à deux) is warranted. There is probably a higher prevalence of paranoia in severe PAS indoctrinators than in the general population. Also, there is probably a higher prevalence of paranoia in abusive or neglectful parents than in the general population.

 

 

 

In psychosis of association, the submissive partner is being induced by the process of suggestion to accept the delusional ideas of the dominant one. Most cases of folie à deux show a pattern of dominance and submission. 90-percent of cases are reported to occur in families. The primary agent must be in close proximity, be a figure of authority or identification, and be in the early or less severe stages of psychotic decompensation in order to be in touch with reality enough to influence the other.

In addition, the secondary partner must derive some gain from adopting the symptoms. The underlying process is one of identification by the submissive party, which may be unconscious. Folie a deux is an example of a pathological relationship in which the dominant party strives to maintain a link with reality while the other fulfils dependency needs. The recipient is not necessarily entirely a submissive partner since in most cases, he or she becomes delusional after considerable resistance and this may affect the primary sufficiently to modify his or her delusions.

 

The secondary partner seeks to preserve the relationship with the dominant one by adopting her delusions because the threat of loss is greater than the fear of psychosis. All families share a common reality and family myths, which help the family to maintain a stable cohesiveness in the midst of internal or external threats. Criminal acts, false allegations, and parental alienation syndrome and suicide pacts can occur in shared psychotic disorder.

 

http://www.ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume2/j2_3_1.htm

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/293107-overview

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folie_%C3%A0_deux

http://www.parental-alienation.info/publications/41-paraliduetoashapsydisfoladeu.htm

http://millennium.fortunecity.com/sweetvalley/210/pas/pas2.htm

 

 

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(grand) parental alienation

April23

Hello everyone, I am new to this sight and I would like to know how many people have had an experience with the grandparents of thier children being the “alienators” Please post on this if you have.

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What do I tell my son?

April1

I have not had custody of my son for 6 years. The court took him from me because of an allegation that I was going to leave the state with him. This was an allegation that my ex had called and said just as I was dropping him off to spend the next few days with him. He was stripped from my life without any facts or question. I feel as if he were kidnapped. I know where he is, I just can’t go to him. I have not been able to kiss him goodnight, give a bath, or simple things like argue with him about eating his dinner, or getting up for school.

I have been through every allegation that there could be without the court, CPS, or the authorities coming to a factualized conclusion for anything. Me and my son have been victimized by the state of Michigan and the Family court system.

I am currently a grad school student going for my masters in clinical psychotherapy and my thesis is on Parental Alinenation due to a court order. I am looking for participants for my study and I plan to give the findings to all of the organizations that are fighting for equal parental rights and for the children of the parents that they have lost.

If you are, or have been a victim of parental alienation due to the court system and are interested in doing an interview, please contact me at amklvyldy@yahoo.com.  You would have to be in the area of OAkland, MAcomb, Genesee, Livingston, or Wayne Counties of Michigan, or willing to travel to them. It would last approximately 1-2 hours. Everything is confidential and I will not use your name if you are uncomfortable. Thank you for your support in this and I look forward to hearing from you and working to end Parental Alienation.

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A Dads Point of View

March3

I met bruce Sallon on Facebook. He is an author, a great guy and he writes at www.brucesallan.com.

“A Dad’s Point-of-View” began about four years ago, when I was hired as a columnist for a local paper. At the end of 2008, I began my self-syndicating efforts to expand by sending out literally thousands of emails. The response was overwhelming as my column now appears in over 75 newspapers and Web sites here in the U.S. and internationally. There are sites carrying my column in the U.K., India, Canada, Mexico, Japan and Australia, and Israel. In addition, I’m one of the few male bloggers hired to write an exclusive blog for momlogic.com. It is called “Just A Guy.” I’ve also appeared on webcasts and radio talk shows in recent months.

The subjects I cover include parenting, raising boys, dating as a single parent, internet dating advice, marriage advice, blending families and dealing with step-parenting, all the ups and downs of separation and divorce, as well as the general parenting perspective from a man’s point-of-view which, I fervently assert, is different from a woman’s!

Check him out when you have time.

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Alienated Children

March3

Are you alienating your child?

Here’s an excerpt from The Angry Daughter Blog.

One more thing when I was pregnant will my first son I was 16 years old & I was very sick.
I had called you to see if you would take me up to the hospital. You said no. You claim to have been a good mother but wouldn’t take your daughter up the hospital. I was in tears & couldn’t breath. Well I got to the hospital with out your help & had to be admitted & hooked up to breathing machines & every thing. So just another example of how lousy of a mother you were.

I remember you not wanting to drive to work because of the snow. It was me that drove you around. I didn’t make any excuses I did it because you had asked me to.

She writes about how alienation from her Dad has effected her life today. She is bitter and depressed and has shifted all ill her feelings toward the alienator. Its a good look into Parental Alienation from the kids point of view. Its sad.

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DSM-5 Coming Soon

March3

Mental health professionals have been stuying disorders for decades. They write up their conclusions in a document called the DSM. Its 5th draft is due out any day now. Will Parental Alienation be included?

Some excerpts of their work were unveiled by the American Psychiatric Association last week, as a draft version of the new “Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.”

Known as the DSM-5, because it represents the fifth edition of this exhaustive bible for psychiatrists, psychologists and others, it attempts to catalog everything from Complex Somatic Symptom Disorder (related to hypochondria) to Temper Dysregulation Disorder with Dysphoria (persistently very ill-behaving children).

The first update since 1994 also includes descriptions of depression, sleep disorders, alcohol abuse and other common maladies, but everything gets a fresh look because of the volume of new research and science affecting how they’re all regarded, said David Kupfer, the University of Pittsburgh psychiatry professor who chaired the DSM-5 task force.

The final product will go into the offices of all sorts of health professionals — from psychiatrists to family practitioners — while also influencing treatment payments by insurance companies, drug development by the pharmaceutical industry and future research by government and academia.

Dr. Kupfer, the longtime head of Pitt’s psychiatry department before stepping down in October, said the manual remains a work in progress, with revisions based on public and professional reaction before final publication in 2013.

“We weren’t out to make major changes, but so much has happened that we needed to address, that some may accuse us of being overambitious,” he said.

The Shadyside resident, 69, has been nationally noted for his work on depression at Western Psychiatric Institute and Clinic. He headed a task force of some 160 international researchers and clinicians who worked on DSM-5, with 13 work groups covering various topic areas.

Among the pronouncements in the draft version:

• All forms of autism will fall under a single diagnostic category, called “autism spectrum disorders,” a concept that drew quick criticism from representatives of those with the Asperger’s form of autism, who are often high functioning.

• Gambling, identified as an “impulse control disorder” since 1980, will be moved into a “behavioral addiction” category that reflects its similarities to drug and alcohol addiction. Certain other addictions, such as excessive use of the Internet, were considered for the category but denied placement there because of insufficient research data.

• Binge eating is recognized as a disorder for the first time, similar to anorexia and bulimia.

• Mental retardation is to be relabeled as “intellectual disability.”

At www.dsm5.org, those interested can obtain detailed information about the draft manual recommendations and provide comments.

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where to go from here

February10

I just found this blog - and I have never blogged before - but this is a very important day for me.  It is my daughter’s 22 birthday.  We have been estranged for the last few months.  I have 4 children, ages 27, 25, 22 and 18.  I do not see or speak to any of them.  In 2004, after years of an emotionally abusive marriage, I asked for a divorce.  I was a stay at home mom for 22 years - since 1982 when my first daughter was born.  That was after 7 years of marriage and working so my x could get his masters degree.  I raised 4 children.  My x was never home and always pursuing another get rich quick scheme. 

One week after I asked for the divorce - he got an order of protection against me - through the Rockland County Court, New City, NY - locking me out of my bedroom - because…supposedly…I kept him awake at night by trying to talk about our problems.  He was never home to talk about anything - he would come home late at night and go right to bed.  ANYWAY - the court granted him an order of protection and I was forbidden from entering my own bedroom for fear of arrest.  I did have to enter it one day - when my son was trying to open a can of soup with a screwdriver and a hammer because there was no can opener.  His father had begun taking things and hiding them in the bedroom so I would not take them when I moved.  I broke into the bedroom and was arrested - yes, for trying to get a can opener and my x was at work in White Plains - about 40 miles away - BUT I was still arrested. 

My x knew that in order to keep the house, he would have to drive me away - and he did this by securing the orser of protection - He also had closed all the bank accounts and I did not have any money.  He had never been in a grocery store for family shopping - and immediately after he was served with divorce papers, he decided that he would not allow me to shop - and he told the kids I could not be trusted with money.  He did the shopping and my kids saw him take over a role they only knew me to do.  He told my kids I stole their college money.  I did take money from the only savings account I could - so I could pay my lawyer - but my x told my children over and over that I stole their college money.  When my daughter was to return to college in September - he refused to pay - even though he made $130,000 annualy, collected $3500/month in rents and had a home equity loan - only he had access to (after forging my signature) with avaibalble funds of $130,000.  He told her she could not go back to college - her SENIOR year - unless I paid for it.  I took out a $12,000 loan - I had no business taking when I was earning $12/hour as a receptionist.  6 years later I still owe $11,000 on that student loan.  He also told another daughter that she would have to go to the community college unless I paid for her tuition.  I could not and I had a fight with him and he had me arrested again - handcuffed and taken away in a police car.  I did spit at him  - and he punched me in the face - but the CLARKSTOWN POLICE arrested me as the aggressor - and no charges were filed against him - even though I had a bruise on my face - noted in the police report.  The officer told me I had no proof it was from a punch or from him - yet they believed my x that I spit at him - I guess the spit was still there and they did a DNA?

My x had me arrested 3 times - using my son to testify to the police and the CLARKSTOWN POLICE took my 14 year old sons statements to have me arrested.

there is much more to this story - it is a sad, disgusting story of power, intimidation, manipulation - and now I do not talk to any of my 4 children

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Eddie Cibrian-Brandi Glanville and 2 Soon to be Alienated Kids

December12

Eddie Cibrian’s Ex: “He Broke My Heart, So I Broke His Harleys”

Eddie Cibrian and Brandi Glanville

Eddie Cibrian is calling out the physical and verbal abuse he says occurred at the hands of his soon-to-be ex-wife, Brandi Glanville — and in front of their kids.

In new court papers, the CSI: Miami actor, 36, alleges his ex physically and verbally attacked him, slashing the tires of his Harley Davidson motorcycle tires in a fit of rage after a domestic dispute.

Cibrian, who is filing for joint legal and physical custody, says his ex’s actions have also affected their two children, sons Mason, 6, and Jake, 2.

Weeks after the couple had separated, but while Cibrian was still living in the family’s guesthouse, the actor says his ex got violent and told their son, Jake, “daddy doesn’t love you” during their screaming match.

“Glanville is allowing her emotional rage to overcome any attempt by me to do what is in the best interest of our children,” Cibrian says, detailing the Aug. 1 dispute that resulted in his tires being slashed.

But Glanville defends her actions, telling E! News she was retaliating after finding out about her ex’s alleged 2006 affair with cocktail waitress Sheena Marie.

“He broke my heart, so I broke his Harleys,” Glanville, who filed for divorce last summer after eight years of marriage, says. “It was right after I found out about girl No. 2, and I had that Carrie Underwood song in my head, and I just went for it!”

Cibrian is currently dating LeAnn Rimes, whom he met and began an affair with while filming the Lifetime TV movie Northern Lights.

Another case of hating the ex more than loving the kids.

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Pink-Family Portrait Video

December6

Pink-Family Portrait Video

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My Letter to Dr.Phil

December6

March 14, 2008 - Friday
My letter to Dr.Phil
Current mood: determined

I don’t expect to get a response from you because I have written a few times already. However I thought I would try again since lately you have been focusing so much on the effects of what these types of issues have on children. And honestly that is what I’m so concerned about. The effects this is having on my children. Which seems to be so non important to many. My children have been denied their mother for what will be (5) years on March 23 2008. It has been that long since they have seen me. Now my children have been completely brainwashed and their minds kidknapped, to the point that I don’t think they will ever be able to remember or return to me for a relationship they need and deserve. So what about them? Who will save them and heal their broken hearts? Who even cares? I do and if it means that I will spend the rest of my life trying for them, then I will.

My father died when I was (8) I know the pain a child feels not having the other half of who they are. your always missing and longing for the parent you use to know and the parent you loved, who is now gone. That you looked up to and admired. My father died so there isn’t anyway to get him back in my life. I understand that, but it’s different for a child that knows the other half of who they are is out there and thinks they don’t love them or eventually believes they are so aweful, that they fear who you are. What is the most painful part of this all for me is what agonizing pain and pure anguish they must have inside them, and as their mother I can’t can’t fix it for them or make it better, despite my many, many efforts. I know they have been told I haven’t tried to see them, that I have just abononded them because I didnt love them. Thats the furthest from the truth I have and have saved evrything including the enormous attempts in court down to the reciepts for the food I bought in their city when searching for them or trying to see them. I have only recently been able to get pictures and they were not from them. My son is now 18 and my daughters are now 15 and 13 I have not been able to speak to my children much if any at all. The last time I spoke with my son was in Dec of 2007 My youngest daughter on Oct, 3 2007 and my other daughter since Febuary of 2007 I call and call and call.

My children are not allowed to have a picture of me in the house because of their step-mom. I have sent pictures of me and My children together and My children told me long ago that she tore me out of the picture. And said that she did not want a trace of me in her home. My children have been told I am a prostitute, drug addict and that I never loved them and that I was a horrible mother. My children were never allowed to talk to me on the phone in the beginning of this horrible battle without their step-mom on the other end or with them on speaker phone so she could hear. She also would force them to tell me the phone call is being recorded. In the middle of our conversations long ago, as she was on the other end or in the room listening in, she would get in our conversations and force them by yelling at them to tell me that they don’t love me and don’t want me for a mom anymore. My children would just be in a silenence, just frozen and sometimes would break down and cry or say I don’t wanna talk anymore .

If I am able to talk to them which at this point I am not she would be whispering to them on what to say. Our conversations were monitored and interupted by her everytime. They were trained to not tell me anything anymore about anything or they would get in trouble. They have been told to run if they see me because I will steel them. They were also told if they lived with me CPS would take them and place them into foster care making them believe her every word. In the beginning my children would tell me of these things I would attempt to confront her, my ex and the court on these issues and never got anywhere. The gifts I have sent have been sold on ebay or thrown away. She has said to me, all of my family members and even to a child support attorney she wanted no trace of me in their lives and she wished I was dead. My children use to tell me she would say that to them. The step-mom would have their little sister from their dad and step-mom copy the step-mom and skip through the house singing your mom is the wicked witch of the east. My youngest daughter would get mad at her and try to make her stop singing that about her mom and my daughter would get spanked by the step-mom.

The step-mom would tell my children that they were ugly like their mom. That their dad never loved me and he only married me because I forced him too. She would tell my kids to stop crying when they would cry for me. She would say why would cry over such a nasty whore. My children would ball and break down when we had a visit prior to this five year span and beg me to fix it. (Please mommy make the judge change it.) She has told my children in detail of how my father was murdered (he was stabbed to death when I was eight) I only told my children that their grandpa was in heaven. They were too you young to know the truth about anything awful like that. When I was 10 I was molested by a step-father for years and my ex-husband was at the trial when we were 16 and knew the truth and this step-father went to prison for 7 years, however the step mom told my children that I wanted to have sex with him and I should have kept my legs closed. This was five years ago so my children were, son (13) daughter (10) daughter (8) My children asked me why I had sex when I was 10 years old with my step-dad and that is how I know what they were told by her. So what else has happened to my children that I don’t know about now. I could go on and on in details about the things she has told my children and about so many incidents. These only touch the surface of what has happened to them. My children are the main issue of my concern and always have been.

I am none of these things they have told my children and know for a fact no child at 10 years ever willingly has sex with a grown man. I was a loving mother that never abused my children nor did I ever deny them of the other half of who they are, their father. There was an order made against their step-mom from being left alone with my children prior to the custody change, yet the other side gained custody by stating that it was against my current husband and the judge refused to look through the file to see it was against her (the step-mom) and not my current husband. But it was already decided before we had our hearing as you may or may not know attorneys and judges are friends, golf buddies and tend to lean to the other side who is represented by an attorney. The step-mother along with my childrens father have spent thousands to fight me from having any contact as I have spent thousands trying to get contact. It needs to end it is so severe now that there may never be anyway to repair the damage done.

I believe anyone who hears of stories like ours would be shocked and outraged that people would go through leaps and bounds trying to destroy anything you once had with your children or better yet destroy the other half of who they are. That they wouldn’t understand how anyone is capable of allowing their children to suffer so much not giving it a second thought. I spoke with the step-moms, mother and she said she understood I kept arguing with her that she in no way could possibily understand unless she had it happen to her and her children. She stated she did that her daughters father did it to her and one day my children will come to me like she came to her. She said let it go and when they are grown you can see them. I cannot and will not give up that easy for their sake. I need help for my children. How will they be as adults? The pain you suffer as a child goes with you all through your life. I need an intervention for them. I wouldn’t want for them to be like statistics say they will because this has happened to them. (Suicide, drug addicts, mental issues they cannot overcome, criminals acts, ect)
I love my children and wish for anything that I could take their pain away and make it mine.
Please help us…..
My myspace page I made for my children in case they ever searched for me is
http://www.myspace.com/oliivejuice

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